To help us understand what the early church was driving at
in the millions of theological words it produced, Christian
History talked with Dr. Thomas Oden, who teaches theology at
Drew University. He is author of the three-volume systematic
theology: The Living God, The Word of Life, and Life in
the Spirit (Harper San Francisco, 1992).
Christian History: Why did the early church spend
so much energy trying to understand precisely how Jesus was
human and divine, especially since ultimately it’s a mystery
how is he both?
Thomas Oden: All ancient Christian writers and
councils knew that it’s impossible to fathom fully the
Incarnation. Attempts to articulate this mystery always fall
short of absolute precision. On the other hand, they
discovered that you can talk about the Incarnation in ways
that fail to do justice to what we do know.
The early church had to deal with the apostolic testimony of
the New Testament, and the New Testament clearly portrays
Jesus as the Savior, as Mediator between God’s holiness and
human sin. It portrays him as truly God and truly human. Any
teaching that failed to do justice to the full witness of
the Scriptures had to be challenged.
For example, Arianism failed to understand that in Jesus we
meet the Uncreated One. Arius thought Jesus was a creature.
That runs counter to the apostolic testimony, particularly
in John’s and Paul’s writings. Theological definitions are
precise because they look for language that rules out
heretical interpretations -- interpretations that fall short
of the wholeness of biblical faith.
If these ecumenical councils hadn’t done the hard labor of
working out the precise language, we would have had, not
less, but more trouble understanding Jesus Christ.
Why did many early church fathers, like Athanasius, argue
for orthodoxy in ways that seem harsh, even nasty?
I don’t think Athanasius’s responses, to take that example,
were simply pugnacious. He knew that more than theological
opinions were at stake -- nothing less than the integrity of
the New Testament, the apostolic testimony to Christ. In the
case of Arianism, if the church taught that Christ was
somehow less than God incarnate, then it would have
undermined the heart of the faith. You cannot speak about
reconciliation the way the New Testament does -- a
reconciliation of a holy God and sinful humanity -- without
a full incarnation. Athanasius couldn’t discuss critical
issues indifferently.
Some in the early church who were branded as heretics --
like the Monophysites -- are today reconciling with the
Orthodox Church. Are Monophysites heretics or not?
Clearly some of the more radical Monophysites were, but in
some cases, the two parties agreed on fundamentals.
The Monophysites, in trying to protect the deity of Christ,
asserted that Christ had one nature (monophysis)
rather than two. But the word physis or "nature," was
used differently by Monophysites and the Orthodox; in many
cases, they were not disagreeing as much as talking past one
another. In the last two years, the Coptic, Syrian, and
other non-Chalcedonian churches have moved significantly
towards reconciliation with Eastern Orthodoxy, though some
serious differences still remain.
Many Protestants balk at the phrase, "Mary, the Mother of
God." Yet the early church was in near unanimous agreement
on this term.
Though many Protestants have problems with the term, it
seems to be a concept many accept. Luther, Calvin, and
Wesley, and the major Protestant teachers didn’t reject the
formula of the Council of Ephesus. They don’t think of Mary
as merely the Christ-bearer, only a specially anointed man,
but the actual bearer of the incarnate God.
Again, it’s a matter of faithfulness to the apostolic
witness. Jesus is the pre-existent Logos, who, John’s Gospel
says, is with God from the beginning. If this same One is
born in the flesh, it is not someone less than God who is
born -- and Mary is the mother. So the term may trouble some
Christians, but I don’t think the theology does. In this,
Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox agree.
The early theological formulations have been under steady
attack for some time. How do you respond, for example, to
those who say the early church’s conclusions about the
Trinity reflect, not timeless truth, but only a Greek
intellectual world-view?
The thinking about the Trinity did not begin with philosophy
but with the apostolic text, the Scriptures. Paul gives this
benediction in 2 Corinthians 13:13: "The grace of the Lord
Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the
Holy Spirit be with you all." Embedded in this statement
(written in the early 50s) is a very early oral tradition
that understands God in a triune way. Take another example:
in Jesus’ baptism, the Father’s voice blesses the Son by the
power of the Spirit. Trinitarian prototypes such as these do
not come out of Greek philosophy.
Are you saying there is no cultural influence?
Not at all. When the apostolic teaching moved into Greek
culture, it used language and symbols appropriate to that
culture. But the fundamental notion of the Trinity came
before the church ever discussed it in philosophical terms.
Furthermore, even when we do notice the influence of Greek
culture in the development of doctrine, we have to recognize
the role of the Holy Spirit. From the beginning, the Spirit
has been at work to guide the church into all truth, as
Jesus promised. So it’s not accidental that the Spirit has
guided the church to formulate a clearer teaching about God
-- the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
That doesn’t mean we have to accept everything the early
church adapted from Greek culture. The church in India, for
example -- which arose in the early centuries and held to
ecumenical teaching formulated in the Mediterranean -- had
to proclaim the faith in something other than Greek
categories!
Some moderns believe that early church doctrine is
hopelessly male-centered, with talk of a Father-God bringing
forth a Son. What is your view?
Actually, the early church teachers thought just the
opposite. Augustine taught that God’s saving action in his
Son Jesus Christ actually honors both male and female.
Naturally, an incarnate savior must be born of a woman, for
men cannot give birth. If he had become female, however, he
would have given a double honor to the female sex -- a
female bringing forth a female savior. Instead, God becomes
male by being born of a female, and so he honors both sexes
in the Incarnation.
Others feel ancient orthodoxy is rigid. Were early creeds
theological straitjackets?
Actually, a great achievement of the early orthodox
consensus is its flexibility! Within this orthodoxy, there
is enormous cultural flexibility. That’s why you find the
Nicene Creed, for example, expressed in virtually every
language on earth, and in a vast variety of Christian
communions. Southern Baptist, Dutch Reformed, Chinese
house-church believers, Mexican Pentecostals, and Romanian
Orthodox all share the same basic Christological and
Trinitarian definitions.
Has studying this abstract doctrine helped you in your
own faith?
My faith has not been helped by abstract doctrine.
But it has been helped by the church’s hymnody, its liturgy,
its pastoral care. Above all, I’ve been helped by its
exegesis, its constant wrestling with Scripture, especially
with the New Testament Jesus. The ecumenical community in
the first five centuries was constantly making decisions in
reference to specific texts of Scripture. It always stood
under the authority of Scripture.
So these theological documents, creeds, and treatises are to
me lively, relational, and meaningful documents because they
wrestle with Scripture and, therefore, with issues we
wrestle with today.

